Super Saiyan Mystic Gohan
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Name: Mystic Gohan
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| Gohan, along with his father and Vegeta travel off to find Babidi and stop Buu when the Supreme Kai finds them and begs for their help. The four warriors fly to Babidi’s spaceship and proceed to fight through all the stages before finally Supreme Kai blows up the ship in an attempt to destroy Buu before he can get all of his energy. This is where Vegeta is possessed and goes to fight Goku while it’s up to Gohan to fight Dabura and then afterwards Buu.Gohan gets his butt handed to him by Buu and is presumed dead by everyone on earth. They soon discover he is alive and he’s transported to the planet of the Kais where he is given the Z Sword. With this supposed sword, he should have the power to destroy Buu, but while practicing with the Sword, he breaks it into pieces releasing the Elder Kai.
Now more powerful than even Super Buu, Gohan fights the pink monster and almost defeats him, but is tricked by the Magical Beast and absorbed. It takes the combined effort of both Goku and Vegeta in their fused state to free him. After the Buu Saga Gohan retires to a peaceful life with his family until he is needed once more in Dragonball GT. |
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The lder Kai, who is even more of a pervert than Master Roshi, releases the inner and secret power of Gohan transforming him into his Mystic Gohan form. The Elder Supreme Kai informs Gohan now that he has unlocked his true inner potential that he can no longer turn into his Super Saiyan form. Of course this really means nothing since his new form is even stronger than Goku’s Super Saiyan Level 3 form.
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Name: Super Saiyan Gohan
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| In the Hyperbolic time chamber, Goku begins to train his son personally. During the whole training process, Gohan has doubts that he will ever become a Super Saiyan or even close to being as strong as his dad, but Goku continues to train him none the less. In order to achieve the Super Saiyan state, one has to become so angry and filled with rage that the energy derived from it puts them over the top.So during a duel between Goku and Gohan while training, Goku fires a Kamehameha at his son who meets it head on. He thinks back to all the times he let his friends down while fighting, whether is was the fight with Vegeta or on the Planet Namek. These thoughts entered his mind and plagued his heart to the point where he couldn’t hold them back. His rage exploded outwards and took the form of the Super Saiyan.
Gohan was the only Saiyan out of all the Saiyans to have the Super Saiyan state for only a few months before he achieved the next highest state of “Ascended Saiyan” or Super Saiyan level 2. Although Super Saiyan Level 2 is the highest state he ever achieves, excluding the Mystic state he achieves which really has absolutely nothing to do with a Super Saiyan. |
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From this point on, Gohan learned to control his new power and mastered it in the one year he was in the Hyperbolic time chamber with his father. Goku and Gohan even learned the ability to stay in the Super Saiyan state for days at a time, practicing their Ki consumption.
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Name: Gohan
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| At a very young age, Gohan proved to have the potential of being one of the greatest warriors ever to grace earth. Being only 4 years old he became more powerful than his father had been even at 3 times his age. Sensing his father was in danger during the fight with Raditz, Gohan broke free from his pod prison and attacked Raditz, his uncle, and raised his Power Level to over 700 where Goku’s had only been at 408.After this fight Gohan was taken away by Piccilo to be trained personally. But first, Piccilo left the boy out in the wilderness to just try and survive. Of course, this experience made him ten times stronger but not necessarily more brave as he chickened out throughout most of the fight with Nappa and the other Z fighters. Although, after Piccilo saved Gohan’s life by taking an energy blast from Nappa that was meant for Gohan, Gohan seemed to find the courage to become a real fighter.
This is the last time Gohan does anything worth while in the Dragonball Z series until he reaches his next form, Super Saiyan… |
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His next large transformation came from when he was battling on Namek trying to find he Namekian Dragonballs to wish everyone back to life. He met up with the old Namek Guru who unlocked his untapped energy raising him to the Power Level of 24,000. He then becomes uber strong during the fights between the Ginyu Force and Vegeta and even raises his Power Level to the point that beats Freeza in one of his highest forms which is easily in the millions.
gohan transformations:OOZARU!
Well, about Mystic Gohan, he is not stronger than Goku Level 3. He may be close, almost equal, but not stronger. There are two things that tell that:
1) This may be not so accurate, due to translation issues, but in the latin version, Goku tells to Majin Boo, after he looses the absorbed Gotenks fusion “Even Gohan can take you down now”, with “even” meaning “Super Saiyan 3 is not needed, is too much”. But ok, this may be not accurate.
2) This one is more accurate: in Hildeggan movie (last from DBZ), Gohan fights the demon with his Mystic transformation, but is unable to do something about it. Goku wins using SS3. So, according to that movie, Goku SS3 is stronger. However, this is a movie, not based on manga.
Anyhow, I think that everything points that Gohan is NOT stronger than Goku SS3.
er no lol Gohan is much stronger than SSJ3
due to a few facts;
Fact 1; SSJ3 wastes alot of energy which runs out before they can kill buu
Fact 2; Goku versed Buu in his fat form in which he was only just equal with him
Fact 3; When Gohan faces buu he is far stronger than Buu in which Buu needed to absorb a SSJ3 and Piccolo to outstrength
case closed
lols, chris u suck to the core.. Goku is the strongest saiyan! GOhan’s mystic form is strong but not as strong as SSJ3. How can a noob mystic form exceed SSJ3!? He may be close to the SSJ3 but definetly not stronger.
I really think Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3! Goku was about even with Fat Buu in SSJ3..maybe a bit stronger…
But Super Buu is waay stronger than Fat Buu and Mystic Gohan floored his ass all over the place…therefore Mystic Gohan = most powerful un-fused character in DBZ!!!
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wow SSJ3 can pwn mystic anytime… when goku fought fat buu, he didnt even try. that wasnt even close to ssj3 full power. mystic gohan may be close but definately isnt stronger than ssj3..
Why do people think SSJ3 is stronger than mystic. There is little to no evidence. The only evidence is that kid buu is said to be the most “dangerous” of all Buu’s forms and Goku was said to have the power to instantly defeat Kid Buu. Supporting Mystic > SSJ3 is the fact that Goku didn’t want to fight Super Buu, the same buu gohan thrashed, even with Vegeta’s help unless they fused together. He stated that Gotenks was stronger than him and Gotenks was equal to or a little stronger than super buu. Of course, Goku said that he could have beaten the fat buu if he wanted to, but the fight wasn’t as nearly one-sided as the Gohan vs Superbuu fight.
Here is another thing to think about. If Kid Buu is Buu’s most dangerous form, then he must be stronger than Gohan Buu (the superbuu that absorbed Gohan). Gohan Buu is stronger than Gotenks Buu. If this is true, then why didn’t Goku just beat Gotenks Buu? Instead he wanted to fuse with Gohan using the Potora earings which would permanently fuse them together. If Goku was stronger than Gotenks Buu then why would he be willing to screw up the rest of his and his son’s life by permanently fusing together in order to beat a foe he could easily defeat on his own? The reason is that Goku was not nearly as strong as Gotenks Buu, meaning kid buu is weaker than Gotenks Buu. If you say that since Kid Buu is the most dangerous form of Buu then he is the strongest, he would have to be stronger than Gotenks Buu and Gohan Buu. I have already proved above that this isn’t so, so most dangerous cannot mean most strongest, meaning we have to gauge kid buu’s and goku’s power on the statements made earlier about Goku’s power: that he is a little stronger than fat buu, weaker than gotenks, weaker than super buu, who Gohan easily beat, and finally a whole lot weaker than Gohan.
Amen, hope that clears everything up about who is stronger.
nooo
ur incorrect
Goku stated later on he was much stronger than Fat buu
and he didnt kill him only because he wanted goten and lil trunks to save the world as they were strong enough when fused together
but he didnt know that evil buu would come out and thats was his disaster cuz evil buu was much stronger than fat buu and when evil buu came out fat buu become much weaker.
ok ok ok.thats cool but wat if he turns into a bad super saiyan like his father once was.
I love gohan
Guys, you have seen all episodes of DBZ, but i didn’t, we all know that Goku is tha strongest because he is not a half blood saiyan like gohan, trunks,goten and lil trunks. vegeta would have been, but not a half blooded saiyan. so ss3 goku is stronger than mystic gohan. it dn’t matter if goku is a little bit stronger by just surpassing gohan by one figure power level. his the strongest!.
UMMMMM, super saiyan flya was right cuz i own the entire manga and goku says he wants to make sure that the new generation can handle the world or sumthing
Here is some evidence that Mystic Gohan is a lot stronger than Goku SSJ3:
-When Goku and Vegeta were fighting Kid Buu, Vegeta wanted to use the dragon balls and Goku said:”I bet you’re getting Gohan and Gotenks to fight aren’t you? *With a smile on his face*” So he’s implying that Gotenks and Gohan are stronger than he is.
-Goku was only a bit stronger than Fat Buu. Even though he wasn’t fighting with his full potential, Piccolo said: “The harder Goku fights the more Majin Buu’s strength increases, there seems to be no end to it!” And Super Buu is a lot stronger than Fat Buu and Gohan wasn’t even close to trying and he kicked Super Buu’s ass.
-EVEN IF Mystic Gohan and Goku SSJ3 were equally matched (which they aren’t) then Goku would become tired very quickly and couldn’t dream of beating Gohan.
- And about that Spanish version comment, I think he said even Gohan can beat you now meaning we don’t have to fuse anymore in order to beat you, make sense?
-And Kid Buu is the most dangerous Buu form because he’s a complete lunatic, even more insane than the previous Buus. But he’s not stronger than Super Buu.
Hope this cleared things up ^^
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Yes this is true.
Goku could even beat Cell at the Cell Games saga. He just wanted Gohan to beat Cell, so that Goku could go to another dimension to go beyond a level possible in the ‘living’ dimension.
In the end Gohan is strong, but Goku is the master of being nr. 1
I really like Gohan infact he is one of the favourits in Dragonballz.He is very cool and a a excepcional warriors there and unique too.
ok no faith zimba… half blood saiyans are stronger than saiyans… even vegeta states it
Gohan is the strongest goku ssj3 is all shit
Krillin is even stronger than gohan just give him a chance to prove himself guys!
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ok here goes. its all a matter of opinion really. i believe super saiyin 3 goku IS stronger than majin buu, evil majin buu, buu (majin buu and evil majin buu fused together), and super buu (buu after losing gotenks fusion). i also believe mystic gohan IS stronger than all of those buu forms as well. so mathematically the end result probably is that they are equal in power, but dont forget goku LOVES to fight thus has WAY more SKILL and gohan does not. so with that being said its probably goku who is the stronger even though gohan is WAY more bad ass (at least from the later half of the cell games saga to the beginning half of the fusion saga any other time throughout the series hes retarded).
if you think about it, the story for dbz took a nose dive after the freiza saga, even though the trunks saga through cell games saga was the best out of all 500 something episodes. after freiza the crew knew about the bad guys 3 years before hand, but didnt want to do anything about it… DUMB. the androids didnt work together to stop cell 1… STUPID. escended ss trunks didnt kill cell 2… WTF. goku didnt kill majin buu when it was technically him and vegitas fault he came back in the first place… AAARGH. and i cant remember for sure but didnt goku kill kid buu without even turning ss at the end, yeah his spirit bomb was created by everything on the earth, but wasnt the one he used on freiza the power of like a bunch of planets… HEAD EXPLODING. and everthing, AND I DO MEAN EVERYTHING about dbgt was just shameful and nonsensicull
all you a**h*les suck.you fucking idiots don’t know the first thing about goku’s ssj3 form.it’s in this form that goku learns the dragon fist which is equal to the spiritbomb.there’s no way in hell that mystic gohan(a**hole)is stronger than goku.
use gohan is clearly more powerfull than goku ssj3 because noy only did gohan get the full training from goku and vegeta but was clearly trained by every1 on earth and also defeated raditz from like 1 of the earliest episodes of which whome had 5 times the energy of goku yet gohan had like 5 times the energy of raditz and u c that carry out through the whole story line gohan defeats cell aswell and not to mention stuffs dudoria up in the freiza set so gohan is clearly the most powerful out of ssj3 and himself
Regarding all the comments, the creator HIMSELF stated that at the end of DBZ, Gohan was the strongest, not including fusions.
dbz is cool … hmm goku can ss13 also after wards and he will become strongest of all.
Ummm. mystic gohan was way stronger than buu. the problem is that gohan hadnt trained seriously in 7 years and his fighting technique was horrible. but keep in mind that super buu (evil/skinn buu and fat buu fused) was way stronger than fat buu.
mystic gohan was the strongest unfused character in the manga whcih has been stated many times
wow SSJ3 can pwn mystic anytime… whej goku fought fat buu, he didnt even try. that wasnt even close to ssj3 full power. mystic gohan may b4 close but definately isnt stronger than ssn3..;
The problem here is most people tend to “ignore” the pieces of evidence that doesn’t help his/her favorite character. Lets clear this up then (these are 10 points that calrify everything in the Majin Saga).
In order:
1-Goku fought Fat Buu, BUT, remember WHY he did it. From the begining, it was NEVER his intention to defeat him, he clearly said that because he wasn’t part of the living anymore, it wasn’t right for everyone to keep relying on him everytime a new enemy appeared, so he WANTED the Gohan & kids to be the ones to do it from now on. He faced Fat Buu only to BUY TIME for Trunks to get the Dragon Radar, remember? He was holding back almost all his power.
2-Skinny Buu appeared and absorbed Fat Buu, which turned him into Super Buu. Now this is the tricky part: Just as what happened with Kid Buu, Piccolo NEVER said Buu had become “stronger” (ie: higher power level), he said that unlike his previous good-natured form (Fat Buu), this one was purely evil and wanted nothing but to fight, so he would be tougher to handle. Buu’s 3 main forms (Im obviously not counting Buu-tenks & Buu-han) don’t suffer from an increase in power level (that would be ridiculous, as he’s not aborbing anyone new, its the SAME sum of powers on each form) what changes however, is the amount of EVILNESS regaining control over his mind, which makes him more “dangerous” than the previous form.(the Supreme Kai’s absorption caused him to develop a “good-natured” conciousness which “sealed” his max power)
3-After Mystic Gohan arrived at the battlefield, Super Buu said that he had felt his energy from a faraway place and “played around” with Gotenks until he (Gohan) arrived. This means Gotenks was never a real match for Super Buu, as he was only waiting for Gohan.
4-Gohan trashed Super Buu, which means he was much stronger, BUT this is no evidence to prove he had surpassed SSJ3 Goku, as Goku (at full power, not fooling around) was stated to be MUCH strongner than Fat Buu, which means he was also stronger than Super Buu. After Buu absorbed Gotenks and then Gohan, he became MUCH stronger than ANYONE but Vegetto. So there’s no contest there. Yeah, that’s to clarify for those who still think Kid Buu is the strongest form of Buu…he’s not. Kid Buu has roughly the same power as Super Buu, but because he is the TRUE and PURE Buu, he was a completely umpredictable, mindless-killing machine, which made him more “dangerous” and MUCH harder to handle than “regular” Super Buu. (Up until this point, there was no way to know if Goku or Gohan is stronger)
5-Goku was NEVER reluctant to fight “regular” Super Buu. After Elder Kai unlocked Gohan’s power, it was his turn to go and back up Gotenks (remember Goku’s intention was always to have either Gohan or Gotenks be the ones to defeat Buu). HOWEVER lets be clear, Goku was CONVINCED that even if Vegeta and him went against Buu-han (Gohan absorbed) together, they would still lose, and yet, against Kid Buu, he was confident that he could defeat him: Moral: Buu-tenks & Buu-han are WAY stronger than the regular Buu forms, as the new absorptions add up the power level.
6-After Goku & Vegeta rescued everyone from inside Buu (but were still inside him) Buu started attacking them from the inside (which gave him the ability to control all the surroundings, an obvious advantage). Then Vegeta ripped Fat Buu from inside Super Buu…and THIS is where things get interesting: Immidiately after losing Fat Buu, Super Buu started a new transformation, BUT, he didn’t become Kid Buu immidiately, first he became “Ultra Buu” (the giant-musclebound form of Buu, which is a TEMPORAL form that symbolizes Buu’s power had gone highwire) and it was Ultra Buu’s power which made Goku comment that they should fuse before going out, or Buu would beat them, as Ultra Buu’s transformation was furiously releasing all the power stored inside him from all his forms, which of course for Goku’s & Vegeta’s “radar” felt as an ENORMOUS power level (they didn’t know that it would be a temporal state and thought Buu would remain like that).
7-After that Buu “stabilized” into Kid Buu, and because of his maller size and APPARENT calm state, made Goku & Vegeta believe he had become weaker than his previous form (Super Buu)…which was not the case. Although the power level was the same as Supre Buu’s, he had now became a MINDLESS killer, who was also apparently indifferent to pain and had unlimited energy (for some reason, from all his forms, only Kid Buu seemed to be TIRELESS…which means we can attribute this trait to his insanity)
8-Here things become even MORE interesting. Before the battle starts, Goku FINALLY admits openly that he was far from serious against Fat Buu, and that he continued to be as long as either Gohan or the kids were still there, as he wanted THEM to finish off Buu. It wasn’t until Buu absorbed Gotenks and started beating up Gohan, that he decided to be serious. However, when Gotenks DEFUSED inside Buu and he lost A LOT of his power, he clearly said: “Hmph, that’s a shame…even Gohan can take you down now”…EVEN Gohan…which is the FIRST hint that makes people re-consider the sitution.
9-Now, the OTHER controversy here is about why didn’t Goku finish up Kid Buu, even though he clearly outmached him. It is the ANIME which confuses everything with the whole “need time to build up enough power to finish off Buu”…which was wrong. In the manga, Vegeta’s sharp senses actually discovered what Goku was doing: Because both of them (Goku & Vegeta) had discarded the new set of Potara earrings in favor of fighting like TRUE Saiyans against Buu, Goku, out of respect for that choice, actually DRAGGED on his fight to let Vegeta have his own chance at fighting Buu (which didn’t have favorabe results…) AND this is what caused the whole problem: Goku did this, because he DIDN’T KNOW (he’s an idiot I know) that now that he was ALIVE again, he wouldn’t be able to quickly recover the energy he had wasted by fighting Kid Buu as a SSJ3 (it is a VERY tiring tranformation, but in the other world, energy is unlimited, so he never had problems with it before) and it was THIS mistake, which caused his “2nd round” with Kid Buu to be not as “one-sided” as the first one. He screwed his chance to defeat him instantly, but he had enough power to do so.
10-FINALLY (this is the part everyone was waiting for), as Goku was fighting Kid Buu for the 2nd time, Vegeta began his memorable speech about how he FINALLY realized what made Goku better than him and why was he the true N#1 (I actually cried at this scene). And then he, who had previously claimed to have seen EVERY battle since he died against Fat Buu, openly stated: “Kakarot, you’re te ONLY one who can fight him” which means that Kid Buu’s “traits” made him so different and DANGEROUS, that even if his power level was roughly the same as Super Buu’s, this time Gohan wouldn’t be able to handle him and only Goku would. This is even expanded after they revive everyone and Vegeta STILL says that bringing Gohan would be useless, clearly convinced that, only Goku could match this new, pure instinct-driven beast.
So, my friends, for those who like it and those who don’t, the OBJECTIVE, final veredict is that although the Mystic powerup made Gohan REALLY strong, he was only REALLY close to SSJ3 Goku, but didn’t actually matched his full power, as Goku was HOLDING BACK for most of the arc, and didn’ show his true power until he faced an enemy even Vegeta said Gohan wouldn’t be able to handle. Hope this clears everything.
hello, i wish to help but would not like to take a side because i would like goku to be the strongest but it unfrtunately doesnt appear that way.
When goku transformed into a super sayian 3, he was stronger than majin buu. And you must realize that he was a newly transformed super sayian 3 reached the bare minimum power of a super sayian 3. When goku frst transformed into a super sayian he was very weak for a super sayain compare to goku at the cell games.
Secondly, Goku was stronger than majin buu but not the fused evil buu. A fused super sayain 3 was as strong as this new buu. Now to anyone that watched DBZ would assume ssj3 goku is stronger than ssj3 gotenks just because its goku. evil buu, or fused buu or whatever anyone calls him could not even touch mystic gohan. It was only when he absorbed a power equal to his was able to defeat gohan.
Goku was training in other world after we had to leave, meaning his super sayian 3 abilites were being greatened, so when he did fight kid buu he wa much stronger.
Now Gohan is the strongest character in all of DBZ unfused of course. He surpasses the ssj3 abilites even when trained. ( it doesnt mean i am saying ssj4 is weaker, im saying in DBZ not GT).
I only believe this because even the creaters say this. “Gohan’s latent power is finally released to its fullest extent in the Fusion Saga, making him the second strongest Z Fighter in the manga (behind Vegito), and the strongest character in the manga to be unaided by fusion or absorption as stated by Akira Toriyama in the second Daizenshuu, on page 114″
“Dragon Ball GT was not created by Toriyama”
I am sorry for all of the Goku fans.
It still troubles me to believe gohan was stronger because if he was why didnt goku just use his instant transmittions to get back to earth get gohan and then go back to the world he was on to battle buu.
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look on youtube for super saiyan 3 goku vs mystic gohan and it shows all the evidence u’ll need that mystic gohan is the strongest good guy in dbz… excluding vegito and gogeta… akira toriyama stated that himself…… cuz originally gohan was to become ‘the new goku’ per say….. in the manga/comics goku even admits to vegeta after they pull everyone out of buu (wen he’s super buu normally again, not turning into kid buu yet) that they still were no match for him even working together.. theres more but seriously look it up on youtube or something… goku may seem close to mystic but thats def only cuz gohan may be way more powerful but has nowhere near the fighting experience or training that goku has… i mean he even stopped training (which really pissed me off cuz gohan’s the bom)